Ordinate Powers From a Fixed Point
Summary: §§419–425: the chapter-16 power-sum machinery, redirected to chord-distances. is solved by a §419-style framework; has genuine solutions only for even (odd requires squaring, which doubles intersections). The closed-form solution via the §372 trick (in sum-of-ordinate-powers-curves) yields ; §425 extends to mixed-symmetric-function generalizations.
Sources: chapter17 §§419–425.
Last updated: 2026-05-11.
(§§419–420)
This is the case of the §412 family . Substituting , :
with of degree , of degree . A second general form, using , is
with one degree higher than .
§420 lists the simplest cases:
- : — circle centered at .
- , (so , lowest non-trivial): , i.e.
- , from the second form: , solvable to
(§§421–425)
§421 sets up the general problem via Newton’s identity in terms of . For : , but and are both irrational (carry as ), so demanding has no two-intersection solution.
§422 with uses , set , etc. — clean, no irrationality, because the square root sits under sign-controllable squaring.
The pattern Euler extracts: has solutions iff is even.
The §423 shortcut: §372 redux
§423 points back to §372 of sum-of-ordinate-powers-curves: rather than expanding , just use to write . Then becomes
Combining with (so ):
For even : rational, satisfies the desired condition.
For odd : removing the irrationality requires squaring; the resulting curve has four intersections per line through , not two — strictly speaking no solution.
The §410 confirmation: gives , which matches the boxed equation of constant-chord-interval-conchoid up to substitution.
§424 — same answer from the sum-of-chords path
§424 derives the same closed form via : with and , we want . Substituting and the same simplification:
confirming §423’s formula. The two derivations are dual; either symmetric function or leads to the same parametrization.
§425 — mixed-symmetric-function generalization
The most general form §425 handles in one stroke is
Setting , :
which combined with (taking or ) yields infinitely many solutions for each choice. The take-home is that any symmetric polynomial in equated to a constant fits into the Vieta-plus- framework, so there’s no further difficulty.
Why “even- only”
The non-irrational structure: and are non-irrational of degrees . So stays non-irrational iff the power of (after expanding) is even. Power sums are polynomials in of total degree in — i.e. overall — so even gives a non-irrational identity, odd gives an irrational one.
Related pages
- chapter-17-on-finding-curves-from-other-properties
- sum-and-product-of-chords-from-point — the degenerate case.
- constant-chord-interval-conchoid — the case viewed from a different angle.
- sum-of-ordinate-powers-curves — the §372 result this redirects.
- two-ordinate-sum-and-product — the chapter-16 Vieta setup.
- three-point-equation-from-fixed-point — extends the same machinery to three chord-distances.